Dancin' In The Streets-> Bertha, My Brother Esau, Loser, Cassidy, Ramble On Rose, Hell In A Bucket-> Day Job Samson & Delilah, Ship of Fools, I I Just Want To Make Love To You To You-> Women Are Smarter-> Terrapin Station-> Drums-> Morning Dew-> Throwing Stones-> Not Fade Away-> Midnight Hour-> Brokedown Palace
November 28, 2016 Subject:
Some thoughts on the throw-back tunes...
To truly understand Dancing in the Streets in context, you have to watch the video that accompanied the Mick Jagger/David Bowie cover that played on MTV around this time. Compared to the bite the song had in the sixties, it's hard for this song to avoid sounding just a little silly - and Jagger/Bowie took silly to a whole new level. Donna added something very pleasant to the mid '70s versions that kept them from cliche, but in my opinion all of the post '78 versions are unsatisfying.
Similarly, and easier to point at the reason, are the resurrected Pig covers like Midnight Hour. Bobby and Donna changed Good Lovin' completely and made it their own, but Bobby is no Pig (and never pretended otherwise) and the grittier standards suffer by comparison.
November 22, 2016 Subject:
If Rob Bertrando digs it I do. But I dug it before his review as I was there and every Ventura show. And agree with augy the best. 82 was the first and epic in it's own way augy, but the playing this weekend was sublime and flawless. The Loser is talked about a lot and for a reason. Jerry nailed it. I just wanna make love to you is the 2nd of 4 times played. First in 66 at the Matrix. 3rd in Worchester on fall tour 84 and last in SLC 95. The dumz>space>Dew is cosmic perfection. But download both 84 Ventura. Both are Olympic efforts.
And shockman, the Olympics started a week after not before these shows.
And majordumbo, Jerry mumbling himself through Terrapin? R U serious?
Stick to Celine Dion.
November 24, 2015 Subject:
The mighty Ventura shows roll on....
Word to Pure.orange on the smokin' bass and cigarettes maximum "Loser", damn!
I recall on tour in the 1980s the word was that the band LIKED Ventura, and were known to tear the roof off there on a regular basis.
July 22, 2014 Subject:
Good show; Dancin' kicks it off nice and brightly; not a *ton* of surprises in the first set, but it's fun to listen to. 2nd set is sort of in the same vein - interesting, fun, not utterly compeling....Just Want to Make Love to You is undeniably groovy, and I really like that Terrapin > D > S > Dew bit - dig how the latter emerges deep from the well.
May 9, 2013 Subject:
keeping this post alive
play the 82,83,84 shows non stop , just brings back memories , flash backs what ever you wanna call it , but man this is legendary shit , greatest band ever , playing in a surreal super cool just dead family atmosphere , simply amazing
85 and 87 great as well .... I really feel the band no matter how disjointed they got around this time somehow made it happen in ventura , I live here and travelled up and down the coast to see the dead , these were special shows
July 23, 2012 Subject:
Loser fan huh?
I'll agree about the vocal quality in Jerry's voice being unique on this 'Loser' but if you want an even more outlandish solo, check out 3-24-90
May 15, 2011 Subject:
I just joined the site, 'cause I was doing a search for this show and found it. I was there and remember a chain link fence getting finally pushed over so we could drink beer in the audience instead of being corralled off,.....does anyone else remember that? Jd
August 30, 2010 Subject:
remember the chords?
did you ever just know you won't remember the chords? uh,uh. they don't--- on dancing in the streets. and good old jerry is mumbling his way thru terrapin. too bad---one of the best quality 84 boards i have heard but i did not get too far deeper into this one.
June 15, 2010 Subject:
gives me chills
M-F chills, man
May 5, 2010 Subject:
The Thunder Lizard
My favorite Loser of all time. Phil's bass on this tune is the reason they invented the Thunder Lizard line of speakers. And I've never heard Jerry, in his unmistakable 1984 too-many-cigarettes-and-whatever-else-he-was-using growl, lay it down that hard in the final chorus.
October 21, 2009 Subject:
The very best of Ventura besides '82
This is super terrific! Besides the only time that I know of Brent doing "I just want to make love to you", the "Percussion" -> "Improvisation" (remember there is no air in space) -> "Morning Dew" is definitely some of the greatest. Plus "Dancin' in the Streets" and "Midnight Hour"
The rest is pretty good too!
September 24, 2009 Subject:
Good musicianship as usual. Grate C Miller remaster. If your a Phil Phreak this is for you. You might find you have to turn the treble down because the high hat cymbals are predominant.
July 22, 2009 Subject:
Might be the best sounding stream on this site
Super clarity and zero distortion. Home stereo loves it 250W worth! Thanks Charlie.
March 29, 2009 Subject:
great show - awesome soud quality
After listening to countless hours of dead on this amazing site, I don't believe I've ever heard a show with such great sound. Not only that, but this is a top-notch performance as well, and not just by post-70s standards. Definitely a smoker and an overlooked show, I believe. Thanks to CM and the best band ever, the goddamned Grateful Dead!
say what you will about '84 being up and down, the five best shows of the year occurred consecutively from the Greek run through these two Ventura shows... and IMO these five rank in the Top 10 for the 1980s.. in the zone.
thank you Charlie Miller for the countless hours of enjoyment i've experienced... you're like the fifth Beatle.
August 29, 2008 Subject:
No Chula Vista show, here or on Deadlists!
Sorry, the date was 9-15-85 for the Chula Vista show and I can't erase my post.
October 8, 2007 Subject:
This show blew all of the minds of we who were there in the audience that day. The Terrapin >Drums>space was mind boggling. The space was tapping into some sort of marine mammal singing . It gives me chills just to listen to it again. Thank you.
November 23, 2006 Subject:
What a nice little synopsis of what occured at this time period for some people (shockman)..I can picture it in my mind just fine....thanks..
November 22, 2006 Subject:
end of the line
Sounds great, and for me this tour started at SPAC. What a trip. Much blissnessness, and a dancing partner sprite eating watermelon with tears in her eyes by the horse stalls and sweet sweet sweetness of life.
September 17, 2006 Subject:
Dead by the sea
Ventura Co. Fairgrounds,July 22,1984 was very Grateful Dead. Yeah The '84 Olympics had closed in LA about a week before. These were true Olympic shows. Ventura '84 and '85 were blisterous and outstanding. Dick can't pick if Dick don't pick this or a Ventura '85 show.
Clear, clean, with heart stopping power. Legendary in the Deadhead rumor mill. True shame I can't download this show. But I do have a
I remember that, sometime during drumd>space, a thick blanket of grey clouds came in from the ocean, covering the entire arena. But the Dead' dynamic music poked a tiny hole in the marine layer. Then,like the iris in a camera's lens, the hole became a spot light of sun shine (just on the stage), and spiraling slowly the opening continued to swirl and increase in size to allow the blue sky to come back, and the sun began to shine on the entire audience. WOW!! Mythical, magical, majestical: some of the best moments with the Grateful Dead could never be recorded on tape.
Love to all...I miss you.
shockman / firstname.lastname@example.org
Michael the dancin' fool -
September 16, 2006 Subject:
A jam to dance my blues away
This is a nice clear recording of a great concert, one of the two best shows I ever went to (the other being July 21st, 1984 at Ventura). You can't feel the gentle rain falling during Cassidy, or see the way the clouds opened up into a big circle of blue sky directly overhead as the band worked its way into Terrapin station, but God smiled on that show and you can hear it in the music. I've probably forgotten more of that weekend than I remember, but the music was as good as the people I met along the way, even with Bob Weir mangling the lyrics.
August 30, 2006 Subject:
This is from the vault master PCM tapes....cm
August 30, 2006 Subject:
I agree that this should be a Dicks Picks using this show in its entirety, with additional selections from the previous day.
For those that weren't at these shows, both days were killer California summer days that will forever remain etched into my synapes! Given the excitement from the previous three Greek shows, the energy and anticipation was high for some killer end of the summer shows. From the opening notes of Dancin In The Streets, to the final notes of Brokedown Palace, this show just stands out as an excellent example of everthing almost just exactly perfect. Play this for your friends and family if they don't believe the GD play anything other than the same song over and over again.
June 17, 2006 Subject:
90 my ass! 1984 or STFU!!
November 5, 2005 Subject:
A classic 1984 show
I'm thinking this could be a 'Dick's Picks'S' I cant imagine what the master tapes sound like from the Vault if there are any.I revised my previous review,the snakes have disappeared,This show really does deserve a 5 for performance. and a strong 4 for quality.I'm not into saying bad things about shows or songs,so I appolgize for saying unkind words about a song from Dick's picks 21. I'm so grateful that we all have the Live music archive. We all knew this day would come and I love to hear everyones tour and show stories and exclamations of Best ever! that's cool.Next to Augusta and Berkeley comm(Nov)this could be one of the best of 1984.Here is a very dark space that melts into a Morning dew.Download this show that was played in so many parking lots at Dead shows
Reviewer:Redhead in Deep Elem
October 3, 2005 Subject:
I've listened to this show many times (and was at this show). Two incredible moments always stand out to me. i) Jerry reaching DEEP on the vocals and guitar on Loser, and ii)the wailing end of Terrapin with Bobby feedback and Jerry knitted into the jam. Both are very unique versions worth checking out.
September 22, 2005 Subject:
In the top 5 for the year
The sound is noticeably better than '84 SBD cassette masters. The playing is great. 'Nuff said.